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I found out where they originate from.

For us to get new driver's licenses, after looking over all the copious options (since our passports have both expired) we have to have:

1) Old driver's license
2) Birth certificate
3) Utility Bill
4) Credit Card

and the kicker...
5) Social Security card

Can someone *PLEASE* explain to me what a SS card that has not my birthdate or residence has to do with getting a NY driver's license? Anyone?

The birth certificate is required because they won't accept the birthdate on the old license as proof.

Getting a new passport takes less documentation. Hell, getting my last security clearance took less.

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Date: 2006-04-21 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwywnnydd.livejournal.com
So, renew your passports, then use *those* as proof for your DLs?

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Date: 2006-04-21 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kickaha.livejournal.com
Well, they have a 30day limit for registering your car and getting a new license after you move to NY. We're a bit over that already. Passport is 6-8 week wait.

And it still wouldn't get rid of the SS requirement, that's above and beyond any and all other forms of ID. It's prior DL, SS card, PLUS at least one other form of ID (in our case two, because they rank them by 'points', and you need two points worth... :P ), PLUS a proof of birthdate. A passport would be 4pts *and* proof of birthdate, but we'd still need the SS card.

Most fucked up red tape I've seen in a while.

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Date: 2006-04-21 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cthulhim.livejournal.com
You haven't been to the RMV in Boston yet...

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Date: 2006-04-21 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kickaha.livejournal.com
Ooh, even better?

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Date: 2006-04-21 01:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimokeane.livejournal.com
The SS card (achtung!) has your full legal name and SSN on the same page, and is supposed to be the official link between those two data.

Of course, my SS card has a line at the bottom saying "Not to be used for identification!" since it was printed back in 1980 or so when such violations of our personal privacy were inconceivable...

Sounds like you guys are preparing to be there for a while ;)

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Date: 2006-04-21 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dollraves.livejournal.com
The other thing your SS card has, that nothing else does, is the signature the government accepts as yours. This is why banks require it for signature authorization on business accounts.

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Date: 2006-04-21 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kickaha.livejournal.com
You're kidding.

I got my SS card when I was 14. My signature looks *nothing* like that anymore.

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Date: 2006-04-21 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dollraves.livejournal.com
Heh. Might be time for a refresh. ;) I updated mine when I took Eric's surname when we got married.

But, yeah, they want something with your signature, even if it's not your real signature, apparently.

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Date: 2006-04-21 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginkgo.livejournal.com
we were trying to go about this in a proper manner... but with the insurance screw ups K mentioned earlier, it's been a far longer and more annoying process than we imagined. :P

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Date: 2006-04-21 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginkgo.livejournal.com
My trip to the Social Security Administration office was anticlimactic- they make a big deal about being able to prove identity, but they didn't require photo id. *boggle* Requesting a replacement card has been the easiest part of all of this.

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Date: 2006-04-21 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kickaha.livejournal.com
I may have to get a replacement, depending on whether they gripe about my SS card being laminated.

The ironic bit? It was the WA DMV that laminated it for me, 20 years ago.

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Date: 2006-04-21 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] franktheavenger.livejournal.com
What have we learned today, children? You should move back to NC. The government here doesn't care so much. :D

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